I haven't been here in a while. Looks like I made your blog as one of the crazy evangelicals you like making fun of. :) Yes. I think the Gospel is a better answer than are government programs. Government programs can't change the heart. They can't teach people what is right or wrong. Even criminal law itself is only supposed to be a broad outline of national morality, and even those basic rules (don't kill, rape, etc) are lost on even the most pious in our society. The advantage of religious change is that 1) it involves people, not government and 2) changes of the heart are more lasting than changes of environment.
For all the criticism that secularists like you have for religious people like me, I've not heard very many ideas on how to stop people from doing so many bad things. Perhaps part of this stems from the fact that the 2 sides prefer to call each other names (namely "stupid" and "ignorant") than actually trying to understand where each other comes from.
"If my people, who are called by My Name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face, and turn from their wicked way, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land." II Chronicles 7:14
And what I see is that the "religious people" in the government have done man bad things themselves.
While they harp on about Jesus, they serve the wealthy to the detriment of the poor. Is that what Jesus taught?
The people claiming to be the religious leaders of our country are the proverbial "Money Changers."
Requiring demonstrations of religion from Politicians is begging to be lied to, so they lie. Why? Power/Influence/Money
Blessed are the meek... What happened to compassion?
Also, let's make it clear that this is one of the most religious countries in the world and bad things happen.
I just don't buy the fallacy that this is somehow a failure to infuse religion sufficently in our government.
Politicians have become masters of using the faith of believers as a wedge.
So, stop and consider what we could accomplish if we as a country were to stop fighting over these manufactured wedged issues and really worked with each other for compromise?
But Pat Robertson, Tom DeLay, Bill Frist, Karl Rove, George Bush, Roy Blunt, Roy Moore, and the rest of the political right has no interest in governing the entire country.
Wedge Wedge Wedge... That's all they know how or care to do.
Your argument defeats itself. I'm saying if people turned to live the Truth, then we'd not have so many problems.
You criticize the Truth by criticizing people who obviously do not seem to live the Truth. Well duh. You can't judge any religion by looking at people who don't practice.
I also am not claiming that we should infuse the government with religion. My point is that people should turn their hearts to a Moral Standard. Government cannot do that. Religion does. The Senate should stay away.
Peace out bro. I'll give you a holler when I'm in town again.
I haven't been here in a while. Looks like I made your blog as one of the crazy evangelicals you like making fun of. :)
ReplyDeleteYes. I think the Gospel is a better answer than are government programs. Government programs can't change the heart. They can't teach people what is right or wrong. Even criminal law itself is only supposed to be a broad outline of national morality, and even those basic rules (don't kill, rape, etc) are lost on even the most pious in our society. The advantage of religious change is that 1) it involves people, not government and 2) changes of the heart are more lasting than changes of environment.
For all the criticism that secularists like you have for religious people like me, I've not heard very many ideas on how to stop people from doing so many bad things. Perhaps part of this stems from the fact that the 2 sides prefer to call each other names (namely "stupid" and "ignorant") than actually trying to understand where each other comes from.
"If my people, who are called by My Name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face, and turn from their wicked way, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land." II Chronicles 7:14
And what I see is that the "religious people" in the government have done man bad things themselves.
ReplyDeleteWhile they harp on about Jesus, they serve the wealthy to the detriment of the poor. Is that what Jesus taught?
The people claiming to be the religious leaders of our country are the proverbial "Money Changers."
Requiring demonstrations of religion from Politicians is begging to be lied to, so they lie. Why? Power/Influence/Money
Blessed are the meek... What happened to compassion?
Also, let's make it clear that this is one of the most religious countries in the world and bad things happen.
I just don't buy the fallacy that this is somehow a failure to infuse religion sufficently in our government.
Politicians have become masters of using the faith of believers as a wedge.
So, stop and consider what we could accomplish if we as a country were to stop fighting over these manufactured wedged issues and really worked with each other for compromise?
But Pat Robertson, Tom DeLay, Bill Frist, Karl Rove, George Bush, Roy Blunt, Roy Moore, and the rest of the political right has no interest in governing the entire country.
Wedge Wedge Wedge... That's all they know how or care to do.
Really Christ-Like that bunch...
Your argument defeats itself. I'm saying if people turned to live the Truth, then we'd not have so many problems.
ReplyDeleteYou criticize the Truth by criticizing people who obviously do not seem to live the Truth. Well duh. You can't judge any religion by looking at people who don't practice.
I also am not claiming that we should infuse the government with religion. My point is that people should turn their hearts to a Moral Standard. Government cannot do that. Religion does. The Senate should stay away.
Peace out bro. I'll give you a holler when I'm in town again.